| Author | Subject: why women dont write kavidai |
| DEENA | Posted At 15:55:33 09/13/2001
WHY??????? |
| arun |
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Posted At 22:18:22 09/13/2001 eanna ? KAVIDHAIYE, kavidhai ezhudha mudiyuma?? |
| dawn |
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Posted At 11:36:53 09/14/2001 thx arun I donno the reasons y there r not much female poets around. Maybe due to socially restrictive reasons or lack of inspiration:-)(infact akam period was far better!) But now we see a gradual progress and notice a couple of free-lance female poets in contemporary literary world. Even tho' we had seen only a handful of women poets in tamil, none can undermine the quality works they produced and their inimitable style.(antha kaala Avaiyar,AndaL to modern era Ihamarai) If u see, there have been some good female composers in carnatic music too like Kuttikunju Tangachi, Vembu ammal,Yoga narasimam... So Naanga "sonnadhum kavithai sollAmal pOnathum kavithai" -Sandhya |
| veekay |
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Posted At 13:56:24 09/14/2001 Thappa ninaichukadheenga, arun posting-la 2nd word-a naan 'Kazhudhaye'nnu padichutten :) |
| DEENA |
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Posted At 11:13:11 09/17/2001 ha ha ha good joke veekay!!!! arun seringna dawneeeii kovapadada BP ekiridahpodu mmmmaa yabba sandaikara sandiya |
| arun |
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Posted At 02:16:43 09/18/2001 Aaangal : Karpanaiye vazhkai Penngal : Vazhkaiye karpanai More than lack of inspiration, it is lack of support from family and society. BTW, how many male poets write about nature and social issues - I mean contemporaries - 90 % love patthi than irukkum.. 50% daadi valarthavangala iruppanga another 50% will be waiting to "grow" one!! I think, women have better things to do.. than waste time on these.. But if you look at the other side, there are equal number of novelists among women .....who were / are successful.. Lakshmi / Indumathi / Sivasankari / Anuradha Ramanan / Vaasanthi.... |
| dawn |
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Posted At 08:56:03 09/18/2001 Hey I meant lack of inspiration in a jovial sense. (neenga maanju maanju nilavu,nathi-nu varNikka inspiration aa azagaana homosapien species(peNgal!) irukke engalukku appadi inspire panna onnum illai:-) Ok kidding apart,thanx for mentioning those novelists. U made me nostalgic! I w'ld include Rajam krishnan, R.soodamani & Ambai in the list. I heard that there were some interesting novelists in pre-independence era like gauriammal, savithriammal,kumudhini unfortunately I didn't get anty material to read or know their biography,Certainly they defied such social and family constraints to give their creative thinking a free run. That 'dhaadi' comment was funny.But I think in contemporary world, poets do write abt practically all issues. maybe not in the range of Bharati,bdasan.. there are some good poets with varied interests like su ramasamy,kalyanji,gnana koothan etc. anyway who cares abt the gender anymore?(except a few like Deena;-) Anyone who has substance can be successful in the creative business world like Arundathi roy,shoba De, anita desai.. -Sandhya |
| arun |
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Posted At 09:07:43 09/18/2001 true.. Illadha azhagai than karpanaiya (aangal )ezhdhamudiyum.. Earkanave, irukkira azhaghai edhukku varnikkanum!! Just kidding.. My knowledge in literature is limited to the extent that I can spell "ilakkiyam".. Well, I do remember the writings of Rajam Krishnan, ambai.. pre-independence novelists.. I havent read their works.. When I was in School, Rajam Krishnan's house was just adacent to my class and I do recall those days.. I like Prabanjan, Su.Ramasamy, Melanmai Ponnusami (some of his short stories in Vikatan, were simply superb ) Ki.Raja narayanan's karisal kaatu kadaigal.. Well, I have been missing some good things!! Vasanthi/Indumathi...avangalukku piragu, I think there is a lull there.. I could not see any notable writer of substance... I may be wrong.. Male writersla mattum enna vazhudhu ? |
| dawn |
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Posted At 09:41:17 09/19/2001 ok I change my opinion. AaNgaLukku "azaguNarchi "adhigamnu ninaichirunthen. ippa dhan terinjudhu kaNNE teriathunu:-) Somehow I didn't notice any lull in tamil fiction coz I just started reading some classic writers from the earlier generation:-) (retrospective reading:-) I like those writers u mentioned(unfortunately i didn't read much of MlaaNmai PS). I appreciate thi.jaa, indira Parthasarathi & ashoka mitran. Who can forget marapasu by Thi.jaa & oru puLiya marathin kadhai by Su.Ra I like vaasanthi's style she is a gentle romantist:-)(moongil pookkaL) -Sandhya |
| arun |
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Posted At 07:35:01 09/20/2001 Arunei!! unukku, idhu thevaiya, illa, thevaiyangiren ( kavidhai thread la, edayum rendu murai sollanum enbadhu, ezhudappadatha niyadhi ) dawn: Ennoda sitrarivai adhigamave sodhikkireenga!! I remember those subtle relationships in Indumathi's "tharaiyil irangum vimanangal: Vasanthi's gulmohar marangal ( idhu varadha her novels, rombha kammiya than irukkum) Some how I did not like Sivasankari from the beginning - mental block-- Most of the time, I felt that her novels contained details about her pet dog - shyama - and the recipe she tried at her home.. Throught my reading days, I never felt comfortable with historical novels... but last time when I went to Chennai, I bought the complete set of Kalki's writings.. Ponniyin Selvan - it was un put townable!!! Ippo, newz paper padikkaradhukke somberithanama irukku!! Eppavavadhu John Grisham than help panrar!! |
| dawn |
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Posted At 10:21:24 09/20/2001 nice analysis abt women writers:-) To be honest I'm not a fan of SSankari either but I appreciate the guts in her. she wrote all issues considered "taboo" in our conservative society from alcoholism to adultery.( 'avan' thavira not much impressive works) Recipes, shama,gulmohar trees... this kinda stuff adds to the familiarity & comfort of the 'discerning' reader. ( if u write, pettai,salpaetta,23-c,redfort,sudu thaNNi,sufi inda maathiri suruk vishayams serkara maathiri;-) Kalki is a legend.ponniyin selvan is a classic.(anaa paarunga padichittu vandya thEvan, aditya nu namma ooru boys kitta thEda thonudhe adhan prob:-) But naan oru mudivOda irukkEn. July-la irundu 2 varusham gundu bookE thodarathillai-nu so yaaravathu na.pichamurthy,nanjil nadan ippadi pazaya writers ezudhina 'somalia' style books suggest paNNa padipEn. Any way neenga dhan newspaper kooda padikarathillai. En varuthame adhan paperbacks outta fashion aayiduche. -Sandhya |
| dawn |
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Posted At 10:40:36 09/20/2001 final note:- atleast when u find a ' time to kill ' :-),read some tamil fiction too. -Sandhya |
| arun |
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Posted At 07:06:11 09/21/2001 dawn: Neenga solradhu saridhan... Basically, orutharaiyo or avanga writingso pidikkama poita... avanga evvalavu nalla ezhudhinalum kutham kandupidikka thonum!! Adhu sari, adhu enna 2 varusha kanakku? Nowadays, Chennai pona Tamil books vaanga mudiyudhu.. Oflate, I have been drawn to books like "freedom at midnight" and career related books - Training and behavioral science and Psychology - "freedom... " was so moving and it took me to those days of human sufferings and how made me feel that the creation of Pakisthan could have been averted. There was an intersting observation in that book that, if only Jinna's illness was detected earlier, the British could have delayed the transfer of power and ultimately, there would have been no pakisthan.. ( enna, indha madhiri books nightla padicha seekiram thookkam varudhu ) I do make it an habit to read for atleast an hour before going to sleep.. ( uruppadiya, onnum padikka mattengaradhu vera vishayam) Last month I was reading some of "devan's" novels and it was on par with Perry Mason.. Ennamo poanga!! ennatha padichalum, wood head la eara maatengudhu!! |
| arun |
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Posted At 07:16:14 09/21/2001 dawn: Neenga solradhu saridhan... Basically, orutharaiyo or avanga writingso pidikkama poita... avanga evvalavu nalla ezhudhinalum kutham kandupidikka thonum!! Adhu sari, adhu enna 2 varusha kanakku? Nowadays, Chennai pona Tamil books vaanga mudiyudhu.. Oflate, I have been drawn to books like "freedom at midnight" and career related books - Training and behavioral science and Psychology - "freedom... " was so moving and it took me to those days of human sufferings and how made me feel that the creation of Pakisthan could have been averted. There was an intersting observation in that book that, if only Jinna's illness was detected earlier, the British could have delayed the transfer of power and ultimately, there would have been no pakisthan.. ( enna, indha madhiri books nightla padicha seekiram thookkam varudhu ) I do make it an habit to read for atleast an hour before going to sleep.. ( uruppadiya, onnum padikka mattengaradhu vera vishayam) Last month I was reading some of "devan's" novels and it was on par with Perry Mason.. Ennamo poanga!! ennatha padichalum, wood head la eara maatengudhu!! |
| dawn |
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Posted At 13:59:21 09/21/2001 <<( enna, indha madhiri books nightla padicha seekiram thookkam varudhu )>> oru doubt seekiram thookam yaarukku varuthu? unga pakkathila irukavangaLukkaa:-) anyway EngE seekirm thookam vara.. indha maathiri books padichaa midnight-la thookam-la nama kitta irundhu azaadi vaangittu poyidum:-) somehow I dont read this kinda political books. ennai porutha varai silence is the best language for politicians & ignorance is a bliss for laymen Thanx for that int titbit. -Sandhya |
| Miyaw |
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Posted At 19:55:02 09/21/2001 hello just curious (he he) nobody else is talking only you two why?? |
| veekay |
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Posted At 11:10:20 09/22/2001 Idhu ennangada vamba pochu, indha poonai ipdi idakku mudakka kelvi kekudhu. Aruneiiiii, pudhusa vandhavangalukku ragging session-a aarambichudalama ? |
| arun |
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Posted At 06:46:04 09/24/2001 dawn: "oru doubt seekiram thookam yaarukku varuthu? unga pakkathila irukavangaLukkaa:-)" Enakkum, en pakkathila irukavangalukkum minimum 100ft gap irukkum ( that is the distance between two apartments, where I live ) Mathavanga thoongarathukkaaga naan padkikkira alavukku enakku periya manasu illeenga!! Marupadiyum oru round Chase / sujatha novelerundu arambikkalamannu parkiren!! Miyav: Ungalodu serndhu "moovaranom" Veekayvudan serndhu "naalvaranom" Veekay: aama edavadhu panna vendiyadhu than... Vara, vara, Sysindia collegela, seniorsukku respete illama poodchu kannu!! |
| yedhiri |
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Posted At 10:54:35 09/24/2001 hakan ba! seniors na ennane theriyaama pochu indha kaala juniors kku :( |
| ketki |
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Posted At 06:51:12 10/03/2001 kavidhaiye pengalai parthuthukapram thaan vanthathu.. ha ha (collars up) Ketki |
| yedhiri |
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Posted At 09:57:21 10/03/2001 ketki, yes, you are 100% correct. Aangal unga azhagai(?!) appadiye varnicha/sonna problems dhan jasti aagum. adhukkaga dhan kavidhai ezhuda aarambichutaanga. kavidhaikku poi azhagu - kelvipattu irupeenga nnu nenaikiren. |
| dawn |
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Posted At 15:31:20 10/03/2001 ket well said! (peNukku) yedhiri: eanga ippadi kavidhaila 'unmai' sollittu yaarukku(wife/gf?)bayndhu varnitha azaghai 'poi'-nnu solreenga? -Sandhya |
| yedhiri |
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Posted At 10:16:42 10/04/2001 dawn, unmai yai sonna adhukku peru kavidhai ye illai ngradhu ennoda karuthu. |
| silkfort |
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Posted At 05:13:33 10/09/2001 little late to join. Neverthelss, where I have an opinion, I havvve to give it. Poetry, calls for certain freedom of spirit. Ability to think, dream, fantasize. Ability to cut the umblical cord that ties you to mother earth. The upbringing of many women, atleast in the past, is such that this freedom is considered morally wrong. Women have been conditioned for conformance. So many women contain themselves from 'exploring' how fertile their own mind is. There are some who dont hesitate to explore, but they hesitate to express. These women are 'poetic' but they dont become 'poets' because 'chittiramum kaipazhakkam'. I have met many girls who are so original in their thoughts, who really know how to appreciate the beauties of the world, but never want to put their thoughts onto paper.Large percentage of the non-poets fall in this category. Very few women have the depth of imagination, command over language and the freedom to express. They do shine gloriously amongst any crowd, easily outshining the men. CLassic example is our very own Sandhya. I feel her class in Poetry is unmatched by most men. |
| Ketki |
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Posted At 03:17:16 10/11/2001 >>kavidhaikku poi azhagu - kelvipattu irupeenga nnu nenaikiren<< ithellam correcta kettu vaichukonga.. hmm. dawn.. can you post one of your poems here ya!? Ketki |
| dawn |
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Posted At 16:24:33 01/15/2002 silkfort: thanx for the compliments(i didn't deserve it tho') Ket: After a couple of days, I'll post a few. -Sandhya |