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| Vendetta | Posted At 02:18:08 02/09/2005
Swami's bombshell-full text of the article: From hinducivilization@googlegroups.com sent by vaanand@touchtelindia.net A meeting was held at mylapore, chennai, tamilnadu, india by vishwa hindu parishad. everyone spoke and the surprising part was Dr. Subramaniam swamy's speech. the speech given by many was only protesting of their voice. But the one given by Dr. swamy was raising many an eyebrow. it is so very alarming. take time to read Patriotic Indians should thank the President of India for having the courage by citing a legal hitch to dissuade Ms. Sonia Gandhi from staking her claim to form the government in May this year. She therefore did not as expected on May 17th become the Prime Minister of 1 billion plus people of India. It can now be said that the nation has been saved from a monumental, devastating, and permanent injury to India's national interest and patriotic psyche of Indians. And therefore every effort that can be made in ademocracy should be made to ensure that Ms. Sonia Gandhi is permanently out of reckoning for any public office. For those who instinctively understand that, this Note is to explain the factual basis for this conclusion, and suggest what patriotic Indians can do now. My opposition to Ms. Sonia Gandhi is not merely because she is Italian---born. In other democratic countries, including in Italy, such an issue [of foreign-born aspiring to be head of government] would not even arise at all because the issue has already been settled by law, that a person cannot hold the highest public office unless he or she is native born. In India there is no such law, but the President according to my knowledge, correctly acted on a proviso to Section 5 of the Indian Citizenship Act[1955] which empowers the Union Home Ministry to lay down conditions that apply to Indian citizenship acquired by foreigners by registration, which conditions would be based on the principle of reciprocity, viz., in Ms Gandhi's case such of those conditions that apply to Indians on becoming citizens of Italy would apply to her. The President reportedly told her that if she insisted on being invited to form the government, he would want first to clarify, on a reference to the Supreme Court, whether in view of this proviso her appointment as PM could be successfully challenged in the court. It is fair to assume that this report of the President's decision, is correct since the President had before him my petition dated May 15, 2004 making just that point--- that Ms. Gandhi's citizenship is conditional, and in particular she cannot be the PM legally. The President had also given me an appointment at 12.45 PM on May 17, 2004 to explain my submissions in person, which I did. I also told him that I would challenge such a constitutional appointment in the Supreme Court just as I had in 2001 when the Tamil Nadu Governor illegally swore in Ms Jayalalitha as Chief Minister. In that case, the Supreme Court had after hearing me and many other constitutional luminaries, upheld my contention that mere majority in the House is insufficient for being sworn in to a constitutional office. There must be no disqualification as well. Ms. Jayalalitha had therefore to step down because she was disqualified by a conviction handed by a trial court in the TANSI corruption case filed by me as private complaint [she subsequently was acquitted by the Madras High Court, and hence became eligible the next year]. |
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Posted At 02:30:19 02/09/2005 I also cited to the President a 1962 Allahabad High Court case, which held that this proviso in the Citizenship Act was binding and lawful. The nation in the Sonia matter has thus got an unexpected but temporary reprieve, a reprieve received not only because her citizenship of India by registration is not equal to one by birth even by Indian law, but also a reprieve more because of what national security risk was averted. To comprehend that risk, we must first understand who Sonia Gandhi really is and what danger she, her family and her friends in Italy hold for India's national security. Even for an Indian born citizen, we find it difficult to know a person's true background, but for an Italian born it is extremely hard because of the remote access for most people to Italy in language and familiarity. This note is about that danger that Sonia represents to the nation, which the people need to know. Ms. Sonia Gandhi's background as is publicized by her and her Congress Party today, is based on three lies to hide the ugly reality of her life. First, her real name is Antonia not Sonia. The Italian Ambassador in New Delhi revealed this in a letter dated April 27, 1983 to the Union Home Ministry which letter has not been made public. Antonia is Sonia's real name in her birth certificate. Sonia is the name given to her subsequently by her father, Stefano Maino [now deceased] following his return from Russia where he had been a prisoner of war. Stefano had joined the Nazi army as a volunteer. Sonia is a Russian not Italian name. While spending two years in a Russian jail, Sonia's father had become quite pro-Soviet; especially after the liberating US army in Italy had confiscated all fascists' properties including his. Second, she was not born in Orbassano as she claims in her bio data submitted to Parliament on becoming MP, but in Luciana as stated in her birth certificate. She perhaps would like to hide the place of her birth because of her father's connection with the Nazis and Mussolini's Fascists, and her family's continuing connections with the Nazi-Fascists underground that is still surviving since 1945 in Italy. Luciana is where Nazi-Fascist network is headquartered, and is on the Italian-Swiss border. There can be no other explanation for this otherwise meaningless lie. Third, Sonia Gandhi has not studied beyond High School. She has falsely claimed in her affidavit filed as a contesting candidate before the Rae Bareli Returning Officer in the 2004 Lok Sabha elections, that she qualified and got a diploma inEnglish from the prestigious University of Cambridge, UK. The truth is that Ms. Gandhi has never studied in any college anywhere. She did go to a Catholic nun run seminary-school called Maria Ausiliatrice in Giaveno [15 kms from adopted home town of Orbassabo]. Poverty those days forced young Italian girls to go to such missionaries and then in their teens go to UK to get jobs as cleaning maids, waitresses and au pair. The Mainos were poor those days. |
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Posted At 02:32:44 02/09/2005 Her father was a mason and mother a share cropper. Sonia thus went to the town of Cambridge and first learnt some English in a teaching shop called Lennox School [which has since 1970 been wound up]. That is all her "education" is---learnt enough English language to get domestic help jobs. But in Indian society education is highly valued. Thus, to fool the Indian public, Sonia Gandhi willfully fibbed about her qualifications in Parliamentary records [which is a Breach of Ethics Rules] and in a sworn affidavit [which is criminal offence under IPC, severe enough to disqualify her from being MP]. In popular parlance, this is called 420 or 10 "numberi" [not to be confused with 10 Janpath].These three lies indicate that Ms. Sonia Gandhi has something to hide, or has a hidden agenda for India. We need to find out more about her. Ms. Sonia Gandhi upon learning enough English became a waitress in Varsity Restaurant in Cambridge town. She first met Rajiv when he came to the restaurant in 1965. Rajiv was a student in the University, but could not cope with the academic rigour for long. So he had to depart in 1966 for London where he was briefly in Imperial College of Engineering as a student. Sonia too moved to London, and according my information, got a job with an outfit run by Salman Thassir, a debonair Pakistani based in Lahore, and who has a export- import company headquartered in Dubai but who spends most of his time in London. Thisfits the profile of an ISI functionary. Obviously, Sonia made enough money in this job to loan Rajiv funds in London, who was obviously living beyond his allowances [Indira herself expressed anguish to me on this score in late 1965 when she invited me to a private tea at the Guest House in Brandeis University]. Rajiv's letters to Sanjay, who was also in London then, clearly indicate that he was in financial debt to Sonia because he requested Sanjay who obviously had more access to money, to pay off the debt. However, Rajiv was not the only friend Sonia was seeing those days. Madhavrao Scindia and a German by name Stiegler are worth mentioning as other good friends of Sonia. Madhavrao's friendship continued even after Sonia's marriage to Rajiv. Scindia in 1982 was involved in a traffic accident near IIT, Delhi main gate while driving a car at 2 AM. Sonia was the only other passenger. Both were badly injured. A student of IIT who was burning midnight oil was out for a cup of coffee. He picked them up from the car, hailed an auto rickshaw and sent an injured Sonia to Mrs Indira Gandhi's house since she insisted in not going to a hospital. Madhavrao had broken a leg and in too much pain to make any demand. He was taken to hospital by the Delhi Police who had arrived a little after Sonia had left the scene. In later years, Madhavrao had become privately critical of Sonia, and told some close friends about his apprehensions about Sonia. It is a pity that he died in mysterious circumstances in an aircrash. |
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Posted At 02:33:30 02/09/2005 The circumstance under which Rajiv hastily married Sonia in a Church in Orbassano is controversial but that was his personal matter that has no public significance. But what is of public significance is that Indira Gandhi who was initially dead set against the marriage for reasons known to her, relented to hold a registry marriage with Hindu ceremonial trappings in New Delhi only after the pro-Soviet T.N. Kaul prevailed upon her to accept the marriage in "the larger interest of cementing Indo-Soviet Friendship". Kaul would not have intervened unless the Soviet Union had asked him to. Such has been the extensive patronage from the beginning extended to Sonia Gandhi from the Soviets. When a Prime Minister of India's son dates a girl in London, the KGB which valued Indo-Soviet relations, obviously would investigate her and find out that she was the daughter of Stefano, their old reliable Italian contact. Thus, Sonia with Rajiv meant deeper access to the household of the Indian Prime Minister. Hence cementing the Rajiv-Sonia relations was in the Soviet national interest and they went to work on it. And they did through their then existing moles in the Indira Gandhi camp. After her marriage to Rajiv, the Soviet connection with the Mainos was fortified and nurtured by generous financial help through commissions and kickbacks on every Indo,Soviet trade deal and defence purchases. According to the respected Swiss magazine, Schweitzer Illustrate [November 1991 issue], Rajiv Gandhi had about $ 2 billion in numbered Swiss bank accounts,which Sonia inherited upon his assassination. Dr. Yevgenia Albats, Ph.D [Harvard], is a noted Russian scholar and journalist, and was a member of the KGB Commission set up by President Yeltsin in August 1991. She was privy to the Soviet intelligence files that documented these deals and KGB facilitation of the same. In her book,The State Within a State,The KGB in Soviet Union, she even gives the file numbers of such intelligence files, which can now be accessed by any Indian government through a formal request to the Kremlin. The Russsian Government in 1992 was confronted by the Albats' disclosure; they confirmed it through their official spokesperson to the press [which was published in Hindu in 1992], defending such financial payments as necessary in "Soviet ideological interest". |
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Posted At 02:33:46 02/09/2005 When the Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991, things changed for Ms. Sonia Gandhi. Her patrons evaporated. The rump that became Russia was in a financial mess and disorder. So Ms. Sonia Gandhi became a supporter of another communist country to the annoyance of the Russians. The national security ramification of this 'annoyance' is now significant: The President of Russia today is Putin, a former dyed- in-the-wool KGB officer. Upon Dr. Manmohan Singh's government taking office, Russia called back it's career diplomat Ambassador in New Delhi and immediately posted as the new Ambassador a person who was the KGB station chief in New Delhi during the 1970s. In view of Dr. Albats confirmed revelation, it stands to reason that the new Ambassador would have known first hand about Sonia's connections with the KGB. He may have in fact been her "controller". The new Indian government which is defacto Sonia's, cannot afford to annoy him or even disregard Russian demands coming from him? They will obviously placate him so as not to risk exposure. Is this not a major national security risk and a delicate matter for the nation? Of course, all Indians would like good normal and healthy relations with Russia. Who can forget their assistance to us in times of need? Today's Russia is the residual legatee of that Soviet Union which helped India. But just because of that, should we tolerate those in our government set up having clandestine links with a foreign spy agency? In the United States, the government did not tolerate an American spying for Israel even though the two countries are as close as any two countries can be. National security and friendship are asdifferent as chalk and cheese. In December 2001, I had filed a Writ Petition in the Delhi High Court with the photocopies of the KGB documents, and sought a CBI investigation, which the Vajpayee Government was refusing. Earlier, Minister of State for CBI, Vasundara Raje [now Rajasthan CM], on my letter dated March 3, 2001, had ordered the CBI to investigate. But after Sonia Gandhi and her party stalled the proceedings of Parliament on this issue, the then Prime Minister Vajpayee cancelled Vasundara's direction to the CBI. The Delhi High Court issued a direction to the CBI to ascertain from Russia the truth of my charges. The CBI procrastinated for three years, and finally told the Court without an FIR registered the Russians will not entertain any such query. But who stopped the CBI from registering an FIR? The next hearing of the case is on September 8th. |
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Posted At 02:34:37 02/09/2005 After Sonia married Rajiv, she went about minting money with scant regard for Indian laws and treasures. Within a few years the Mainos went from utter poverty to billionaires. There was no area that was left out for the rip-off. On November 19, 1974, as fresh entrant to Parliament, I asked the then Prime Minister Ms. Indira Gandhi on the floor of the House if her daughter-in-law, Sonia Gandhi was acting as an insurance agent of a public sector insurance company [Oriental Fire & Insurance], giving the Prime Minister's official residence as her business address, and using undue influence to insure all the officers of the PMO while remaining an Italian citizen [thus violating FERA]? There was uproar in Parliament, but Mrs. Indira Gandhi had no alternative but to cut her losses. She made a rare admission that it was so, and that it was by mistake, but that Sonia had resigned from her insurance agent status [after my question]. But Sonia was incorrigible. Her contempt for Indian law continued to manifest. The Justice A.C. Gupta Commission set up by the Janata Party government in 1977 came out with a voluminous report on the Maruti Company then owned by the Gandhi family, and has listed eight violations of FERA, Companies Act, and Foreigners Registration Act by Sonia Gandhi. She was never prosecuted, but can be still prosecuted because under Indian law, economic crimes not subject to the statute of limitation. In January 1980, Indira Gandhi returned as Prime Minister. The first thing Sonia did was to enroll herself as a voter. This was a gross violation of the law, enough to cause cancellation of her visa [since she was admittedly an Italian citizen then]. There was some hullabaloo in the press about it, so the Delhi Chief Electoral Officer got her name deleted in 1982. But in January 1983, she again enrolled herself as a voter! Such is her revealed disdain for Indian laws and that is her mindset even today. The bottom line observed in Sonia's mindset is that she can always run back to Italy if she becomes vulnerable at anytime. In Peru, President Fujimori who all along claimed to be "born Peruvian", faced with a corruption charge fled to Japan with his loot and reclaimed his Japanese citizenship. |
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Posted At 02:37:04 02/09/2005 In 1977, when the Janata Party defeated the Congress at the polls, and formed the government, Sonia with her two children, abandoned Indira Gandhi and ran to the Italian Embassy in New Delhi and hid there. Rajiv Gandhi was a government servant then [as an Indian Airlines pilot], but he too tagged along and hid in that foreign embassy ! Such was her baneful influence on him. Rajiv did snap out Sonia's influence after 1989, but alas he was assassinated before he could rectify it. Those close to Rajiv knew that he was planning set things right about Sonia after the 1991 elections. She did too know of it because he had told her. Ever wonder why Sonia's closest advisers are those whom Rajiv literally hated? Ambika Soni is one such name. Ever wonder why she asked the President of India to set aside, on a mercy petition, the Supreme Court judgment directing that Rajiv Gandhi's LTTE killers be hanged to death, when she was not similarly moved for Satwant Singh who killed Indira Gandhi or recently for Dhanajoy Chattopadhyaya? The explanation for this special consideration for the LTTE lies in what Rajiv had told her in 1990. Those who have no love for India will not hesitate to plunder her treasures. Mohammed Ghori, Nadir Shah, and the British scum in the East India Company made no secret of it. But Sonia Gandhi has been more discreet, but as greedy, in her looting of Indian treasures. When Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi were PrimeMinisters, not a day passed when the PM's security did not go to the New Delhi, or Chennai international airport to send crates and crates unchecked by customs to Rome. Air India and Alitalia were the carriers. Mr. Arjun Singh first as CM, later as Union Minister in charge of Culture was her hatchet man. Indian temple sculpture of gods and goddesses, antiques, pichwai paintings, shatoosh shawls, coins, and you name it, were transported to Italy to be first displayed in two shops owned by her sister [i.e., Anuskha alias Alessandra]. These shops located in blue-collar areas of Rivolta [shop name: Etnica] and Orbassano [shop name:Ganpati] did little business because which blue collar Italian wants Indian antiques? The shops were to make false bills, and thereafter these treasures were taken to London for auction by Sotheby's and Christies. Some of this ill-gotten money from auction went into Rahul Gandhi's National Westminister Bank and Hongkong & Shanghai Bank, London accounts, but most of it found it's way into the Gandhi family account in the Bank of America in Cayman Islands. Rahul's expenses and tuition fees for the one-year he was at Harvard, was paid from the Cayman Island account. What kind of people are these Gandhi-Mainos that bite the very hand of Bharat Mata that fed them and gave them a good life? How can the nation trust such greedy thieves? Since I failed to persuade the Vajpayee government to defend India's treasures from plunder by the Mainos, I approached the Delhi High Court in a PIL. The first Bench of the court issued notice to the Government, but since the Indian government dragged it's feet, the Court directed the CBI to seek Interpol's and Italian government's help. The Italian government justifiably asked for a Letter Rogatory for which a FIR is a pre-requisite. But the Interpol did oblige and submitted two voluminous reports, which the Court directed the CBI to hand over to me. But CBI has refused, and has claimed privilege! |
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Posted At 02:37:51 02/09/2005 The CBI has also been caught lying in court by telling the judges that Alessandra Maino is a name of a man, and Via Bellini 14, Orbassano is a name of a village [not the street address of the Maino's residence]. Although the CBI counsel had to apologise to the court stating he made a mistake, he has been promoted to Additional Solicitor General by the new government! The Vajpayee-Sonia mutual assistance pact is in full view. The case now comes up on September 8th. But the most sinister aspect of Sonia Gandhi's character is her connection with terrorists. I am still working on it, but she has had long connection with the Habash group of Palestinian, and has funded Palestinian families that lost their kith and kin in a suicide bombing or hijacking episode. This, Rajiv Gandhi himself told me and was confirmed to me [the funding] by Yassir Arafat when I met him in Tunis on October 17, 1990 at the request of Rajiv Gandhi. Rajiv Gandhi and I were good friends from 1978, but became very close buddies after V.P. Singh had betrayed him in 1987. We met practically every day, mostly in the early hours from 1AM to 4AM. It was at my suggestion that he made Chandrashekhar the PM. And contrary to public impression, he was not mainly responsible for the fall of Chandrashekar government in which I was a Minister. Besides the Palestinian extremists, the Maino family have had extensive business dealings with Saddam Hussein, and surprisingly with the LTTE ["the Tamil Tigers"] since 1984. Sonia's mother Paola Predebon Maino, and businessman Ottavio Quattrocchi were the main contacts with the Tigers. The mother used the LTTE for money laundering and Quattrocchi for selling weapons to earn commissions. Sonia's conduit to the LTTE has been and is through Arjun Singh who uses Bangalore as the nodal point for contact. There is a string of circumstantial evidence pointing to the prima facie possibility that the Maino family may have contracted the LTTE to kill Rajiv Gandhi. The family may have assured the LTTE that nothing would happen to them because they would ensure it is blamed on the Sikhs or the evidence so much fudged that no court would convict them. But D.R. Karthikeyan of the CBI who led the SIT investigation got the support of Narasimha Rao and cracked the case, and got the LTTE convicted in the trial court, and which conviction was upheld in the Supreme Court. |
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Posted At 02:38:38 02/09/2005 Although on the involvement of Congress Party in the assassination, DRK soft peddled on a number of leads perhaps because he did not want political controversy to put roadblocks on his investigation as a whole. The Justice J. S. Verma Commission, which was set up as the last official act of the Chandrashekhar government before demitting office on June 21, 1991, did find that the Congress leaders had disrupted the security arrangements for the Sriperumbudur meeting. The Commission wanted further probe into it but the Rao government rejected that demand. In the meantime under Sonia's pressure, the Jain Commission was set up by the Rao government, which tried to muddy the waters and thus exonerate the LTTE. But the trial court judgment convicting the LTTE came earlier, and that sinister effort too failed. Nowadays, Sonia is quite unabashed in having political alliance with those who praise Rajiv Gandhi's killers. No Indian widow would ever do that. My investigations into Sonia's involvement in Rajiv's assassination is therefore still on. I am also author of a best seller titled Assassination Of Rajiv Gandhi,Unasked Questions and Unanswered Queries [published by Konark in 2000] in which I have given some indications. Is it not significant that the political career of Sonia Gandhi advances concomitantly with a series of assassinations and apparently accidental deaths? How did Sanjay's plane nosedive to a crash and yet the fuselage not explode? There was no fuel! Why was there no inquiry conducted? Is it not a fact that Indira Gandhi died because of loss of blood from the wounds and not directly due to a bullet impacting her head or heart? Then is it not strange that Sonia had insisted that the bleeding Indira be driven to Lohia Hospital -- in the opposite direction to AIIMS, which had a contingency protocol set up for precisely suchan event? And after reaching Lohia Hospital, did not Sonia change her mind and demand that they all drive to AIIMS thus losing 24 valuable minutes. The same kind of mystery surrounds the sudden deaths of Sonia's other political roadblocks such as Rajesh Pilot, Jitendra Prasad, and Madhavrao Scindia. Such things happened in the dark ages in Italy. Should we allow it India like dumb cattle? |
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Posted At 02:38:51 02/09/2005 What Can We Do? We have to ensure that the Maino clan does not stay in power. Dr. Manmohan Singh may be PM, which is a small relief, but he is not a fighter. The real power in government today is wielded by the Maino mafia gang. Can they be dethroned? In Indian democracy, only a shocking scandal can unseat a government other than by losing majority. Today's priority is not for toppling the Congress government as such since Manmohan Singh is a decent and scholarly person, but in driving the Maino clan out of India. It will however not be long before Sonia will give Manmohan Singh marching orders, and he will march out meekly. We should not expect him to resist. With Sonia's defacto government in place, it is also unrealistic to expect that I can get an early victory in the courts on the KGB and antique smuggling cases. The most potent weapon therefore to dislodge the Maino clan [including Rahul and Priyanka] is by exposing their Italian citizenship. In 1992, Sonia revived her citizenship of Italy under Article 17 of the Italian Citizenship Law [Act 91 of 1992]. Rahul and Priyanka were born Italian citizens because Sonia was Italian when she gave birth to them [Italian law based on jure sanguinis]. Hence, they continue be Italians since they never renounced it. Both have been traveling abroad on Italian passports. They may now acquire Venezuela passports since Rahul's girl friend Veronica is a Venezuelan. That means one more foreign bahu for us tolerant Indians. The Maino-Gandhis are certainly getting globalized. So what can patriotic Indians do? There is an urgent need to document these facts on notarized paper, for which we need a network in London, Milan, Hongkong and Venezuela. Those persuaded by my above stated facts and arguments may join in and help set up this network. |
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Posted At 07:12:32 02/09/2005 Time for Hindus to wake up. Have we not had the British rule for centuries by confusing us and defrauding us? Did we not let muslims rule us for centuries and try to destroy our culture and defraud us? Do we want another colonisation? Colonisation works best when it starts with enslaving the mind and confusing the colonised. Thannigarillaa Bharathi enna sonnaar? Endru thaNiyum engaL sudhandhira dhaagam Endru madiyum engaL adimaiyin moham! |
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Posted At 15:11:11 02/09/2005 vanakkam. ithe Thiru.Subramniam saamy thaane Tea party vechchikittu Delhi-le yaarai vEnumnaalum appo appo koottu sEththukittu arasiyal idam pidikkara oru .....!!! Thamizhan at 02:41 AM IST on 10 Feb 2005 |
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Posted At 23:27:49 02/09/2005 hahaha Subramaniam Swamy's name itself makes me ROTFL. Isnt he the guy who abused Harvard's status by becoming a joker in a Madurai village and completely lost his right to contest by finishing 4th in the election? |
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Posted At 02:12:10 02/10/2005 Hello... Subramania Swamy might have hosted Tea party to dislodge BJP government along with Sonia and JJ but he was able to achieve his objective that time. Most of the times he is proved correct than otherwise. If you have strong case against any of the above said facts then you can bring it in here. Rhetorics will not help in discussions it only proves that one is not able to defend himself. |
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Posted At 05:38:57 02/10/2005 This is the foolish thing I have ever read. But I am not surprised to hear this from the good for nothing SuSamy. First of all, the article is a cheap bluff and contains no factual evidence of his charges. Of course if even one bit of it is true he would have already filed cases against her, as it is the only thing he does for a political living. His threats are much like the terrorists threat to use the nukes. The point is if they had nukes, they would have used it already. SuSamy has no nukes. He only has his filthy, twisted, self-serving mind despite his impressive academic background. He had the opportunity once to do so much good for the people of India. But he showed no leadership and faltered then. For a long time now, he lives by such cheap accusations, stupid political predictions and filing cases against other politicians. This article is not about Sonia. This article is about himself. This is the way he plays his politics. And this is why he has no mandate from the people. He betrayed and screwed up the Madurai constituents once. He will never raise back in politics from Madurai. His party is doomed. You know why. Because all he does is play negative politics. What is his contribution to India? He has filed cases against the rich and powerful when they are not in line with his arrogance. But where was his scholarly conscience when he was in bed with the Congress or AIADMK? The article may be appealing to the BJP/VHP/RSS sympathisers for it is in line with their cheap tactics of sending emails enmass whining about india's shame if Sonia became the PM, shaving their heads off and playing every trick on the book immediatly after the parlimantary elections. Get this losers. If Sonia wanted to become the PM, there was no force on earth that could have stopped her. Not a supreme court case. It is perfectly legal according to our constitution for a naturalized citizen to become a PM, unlike in US. The mandate for congress from the people of India was not for anyone else other than Ms.Sonia Gandhi. And she choose to gave it off for her own reasons. And who has she appointed in the seat? A renowned technocrat who turned the country around for good in the early 90s. If the same thing happens in the movies, you would have clapped your hands and walked out with the satisfaction of an sssurance for the future of the country. But when it happens in real life, you miss the whole point. |
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Posted At 22:32:50 02/11/2005 This report is to be viewed carefully, but not contemptuously, with his widely perceived background as the CIA’s agent; Why after the last elections, Sonia could have become PM immediately after Rajiv’s assassination, given the wave. Not only did she refuse, but gave clear signals that she would resist her children also from politics for fear of the fate meted out to the Nehru dynasty. I do not think she is playing Abhirami of “Anandham”! With what motive? Could be true that her family in Italy benefited by kickbacks, as widely reported in the Bofors, like any other Indian politicians, but that doesn’t sound well to cast her as an agent of Russia despite the fact that the Nehru-Indira-Rajiv era were pro Russia, nor that she has terrorist links. Wild imagination. But, great, she renounced the PM’s positition and saved the country from internal turmoil. |
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Posted At 02:13:59 02/12/2005 None of you could refute charges brought down by Sumbramanya Swamy. If these facts are not correct then it is easy for Sonia to defend herself in the court of law. Especially her Italian passport issue is not cleared openly by her. Rahul and Priyanka can refute these charges by saying that they are not the citizens of Italy or they do not own any other passports other than Indian passport. Subramanya Swamy indeed had raised this issue during BJP rule as well. As it is evident in this posting there was tactical understanding between BJP and Congress on this issue knowing fully well that by bringing these charges against Sonia will only help her gaining popularity especially when they were facing so many other issues that time. If Sonia had become PM immediately after the assassination then all these allegations will have become true lot earlier!! Again, she did not renounce the PM position as entire Congress was pitching Sonia as PM candidate during entire election campaign with tactical approval from Sonia. It is only wild imagination to think that Sonia had sacrificed PM position. |
| Best_Kannan |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 15:38:20 02/12/2005 Quote from Indian Express, 12.2.05: IT IS NOT LIKE BEGGING FOR SYMPATHY VOTE IN AMETHI I KNOW HIS FATHER RAJIV PERSONALLY AND NEVER FELT THAT HE OR HIS SON WOULD BE A MATCH TO SHIVAJI.BOTH WERE/ARE COWARDS.ONE DAY WHEN I VISITED HIM HE WAS ON TOP OF A TABLE AND HIS SERVANT WAS TRYING TO KILL A C.ROACH.HE WAS SO SCARED ABOUT C.ROACH.WHEN FATHER IS LIKE THIS WE CAN IMAGINE THE CAPACITY OF HIS SON.HE IS A "SHAME"FOR INDIA MOLESTING COLOMBIAN AND ITALIAN GIRLS(IN KERALA BACKWATERS). WHAT IS HIS QUALITY AFTERALL.SOMEHOW HE HAPPENED TO BORN IN INDIRA FAMILY. THATS ALL.CAN RAHUL MATCH ANY COMMON INDIAN YOUTH IN ANY FIELD? (FOR EG:EDUCATION?POLITICS?SPORTS?GAMES?STREET FIGHT?KARATE?CHARITY?THEFT?ORATION?SPIRITUALITY? IQ?)? ANSWER IS :BIG NO!!! HE HAS NO LEADERSHIP QUALITY.WHERE IS SHIVJI AND WHERE IS THIS IDIOT RAHUL STANDS???SHIVJI WAS A REAL WARRIOR AND ALL INDIANS ARE STILL PROUD OF HIM.YES RAHUL HE MAY BE A KING OF FOOLS.HE HAS GOT A FAKE DIPLOMA CERTIFICATE FROM HARWARD AND THAT'S IT.HE WAS EVEN NO MATCH FOR SON OF MADAVRAO SINDHIA,JYOTIRADITYA SCINDIA.IF YOU CALL RAHUL A SHIVJI, THEN WHAT YOU WILL CALL JYOTIRADITYA SCINDIA?HE IS BETTER THAN RAHUL.SONIA WON'T ADMIT.LAST AICC MEETING SCINDIA OUT CLASSED RAHUL.IT IS NOT LIKE BEGING SYMPATHY VOTES IN AMETHI. Posted by: vani_malini@yaho.com, New Zealand, 12-02-2005 at 1422 hours IST |
| PuthiavanRaj |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 01:03:25 02/14/2005 Another comic relief by political joker Subramanya Swamy. Just laugh off. Friends, Don't waste your valuable time! |
| Vendetta |
Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 00:38:15 02/16/2005 Hello PuthiyavanRaj, I would suggest you to laugh after providing the explanation for each of those findings. We will also join your humor club once you provide the explanations. Till then we will be waiting curiously with our faces smiling, instead of laughing. |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 22:17:29 05/11/2005 Antonio is a male name. Antonia is a female name. E.g Latina are women and Latino are men. Correct yourselves before someone thinks,that you are posting trash. In 1994 or 1995 one BHALLA BOOK SERVICE at S-61,Greater Kailash,Part-I,New Delhi was selling a very voluminous and a very expensive book called FACT IN FACTS in which an retired Army Colonel who used to live in SAGAR SURI apartments. In this book Sonia was proved to be the assasin of Indira and Rajiv supported by irrefutable evidence. Nobody purchased it because of it's volume and price. I wanted to purchase now but was told that both the Book and the author have disappeared. Check up from this BHALLA BOOK SERVICE. |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) IS A HINDU and was orgiginally born in Sikkim (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 23:01:16 05/14/2005 I was told by a genuine Sadhu that Antonia is half Sikkimi and half British as elaborated in a Book in Teen Murti House entitled "HISTORY OF SIKKIM"[I've not read as going anywhere near those dangerous people might create problems. Lord Mountabatten didn't want to leave India and Sikkim was out of the British Control. So the British woman was asked to Pursuade her hubby ,KING OF SIKKIM to amalgamate that independent State with India and as a return favor the British promished the UK Woman to be India's Head of State. Instead of pursuading the King she gave him Potassium Cyanide. The decent Mountbatten was so furious that he got that woman deported to Italy where Stephano took care of her and kept her as his concubine and adopted Antonia. Mountabatten told her "If you can kill your hubby,then God save India". All delibrations tok place in the house of G.B Pant. No wonder she wears dark glasses to hide her Mongoloid [chink]eyes. Can anyone shed some light on this theory of that Sadhu? When she married Rajiv, Sikkim gladly amalgmated with India in 1978[10 years after her marriage in 1968] |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 04:24:43 05/15/2005 I have never met Subramaniam Swamy who advises Paul A Samulson on research papers written by him. Samuelson ,a nobel laureate is the greatest living economist and doesn't publish his papers without S Swamy's comments and advice and acknowldges S Swamy. Shame on this rogue nation for not recognizing a gem. Shame on some idiots here who have passed derogatory comments on Subramaniam Swamy. Obviously these people here are cronies of criminals like Laloo, Taslimuddin,Antonia and have rotten family backgrounds, poor education and limited grey matter. |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 1 replies)
Posted At 09:35:35 05/17/2005 The famous bestselling Author D----i---c---k Francis lives in Cayman Islands.His arch enemy is a woman who lives/used to live in Channel Islands as her claim is that he wrote his last best seller after pilfering her story[Which is fib]and filed many cases against him. D.Francis email and phone are unlisted but a PI got them free from me. If we play the properly then D-i-c-k Francis can be an invaluable asset for exposing this mega scam. Further Rahul Gandhi should be lodged in jail for becoming a M.P while being a Citizen of Italy. This is something unheard off in any part of the world even Sierra Leonne. IF THERE IS A REAL HUMAN BEING HERE ,THEN KINDLY RESPOND. I get the eerie feeling that all posts are those of just one man in diffrent guises. If that's the case, then this BB cannot be taken seriously. Note: Amusing to note that poor D---i----c---k is a censored name LOL! |
| janeausten |
NOT MERE COINCIDENCES (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 10:13:08 05/17/2005 The flowing died because of reasons acscribed next to the names. 1. SITARAM KESRI DIED NOT BECAUSE OF OLD AGE BUT BECAUSE HE HAD AN EYE ON PREMIERSHIP. 2. MADAV RAO SCINDIA WAS RUMORED TO BE THE PM SO HE HAD TO DIE. NO INQUIRY,NO BLACK BOX INVESTIGATION. MATTER WAS HUSHED UP. 3. RAJESH PILOT WAS RUMORED TO BE THE PM AND SO HE HAD TO DIE. NO INQUIRY. MATTER AGAIN HUSHED UP. 4. LALOO YADAV OPENLY STATED THAT HE WOULD BE THE PM. HE HAS TO DIE . FIRSTLY HE'LL BE ISOLATED ,JAILED,POISONEDIN JAIL AND SO HE HAS TO DIE. 5. MANMOHAN SINGH WON'T GET THE MARCHING ORDERS AS HE IS OCCUPYING THE CHAIR OF ANTONIA. SO HE HAS TO DIE. There's no astrology here but pure logic. When a woman can murder all members of her family who are the above. Note Please: ANTONIA GOT A POLISH OR A GERMAN GUYTO GIFT A DEFECTIVE PLANE TO SANJAY GANDHI KNOWING HIS CRAZE FOR FLYING. SO HE DIED IN A CRASH. WHO'S LEFT? ANTONIA ONLY. MANEKA HAS NOT YET EXPRESSED SUCH AMBITION. AS A LITMUS TEST THE ROTTEN CHIDAMBRAM BE BRAINWASHED INTO STATING THAT HE WILL BECOME THE PM. WATCH WHAT HAPPENS. HE WILL DIE. So if you want to bump off anyone, spread rumors that he/she will become the PM . That person will die. SO AMBITIOUS IS THIS HISPANIC (WRONGLY CONSTRUED AS A CAUCASIAN) , THAT SHE'll BUM OF HER ANYONE WHO WANTS TO OCCUPY THE PM'S CHAIR. Note: Without Antonia's orders SADU YADAV WOULDn"T HAVE BEEN TREATED THE WAY HE HAS BEEN TREATED. ALSO LALOO CANNOT SEE THAT HE IS ABOUT TO BE BUMPED OFF. |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 23:04:03 05/17/2005 No response could mean that some other message board is being used. As such, I End my posts here. |
| janeausten |
Re: Antonio(sonia!) and facist connections (Currently 0 replies)
Posted At 11:30:15 05/18/2005 Who says Manmohan Singh's HONEST. HE IS SO CORRUPT that as a finance MINISTER he siphoned billions of Rupees to Antonia. Now he ripping off the nation apart by bribing Antonia. He is so vindictive and a SNAKE in the grass the way he's closed all Criminal Cases against Antonia Cronies. A very honest Income Tax officer JAYANTI AIYER was declared "INSANE" by her extremely corrupt boss. Many M.P's intevened but after handing over a check of one lac rupees and terminated her services. Some years later she committed suicide.At that time he was the finance minister. Are you aware of how rich are his grandchildren,children? HE SHOULD BE PUBLICLY HANGED. THIS SIKH FELLOW IS A SAME ON INDIA and what sort of an "economist he is". He's stopped deposits in banks above 50,000 Rs. HE HAS made it madatory to cut a percentage if someone withdraws Rs.10,000/-. He doesn't know what VAT is but has simply copied it from Europe. He is a man of a lower division clerk of the so called INDIAN ECONOMIC SERVICE. YES, he's decent, meek only before his GODDESS ANTIONIA. His existence is a grave threat to Indian Security but he's as cheap as Lallo[WHOM HE SUPPORTS FULLY AND IS TRYING TO CLOSE HIS CRIMINAL CASES. He has already closed the CBI case of Assasin of Antonia by planting at Antonia's behest a phony "IPS officer" of Haryana cadre some named Bhatia whom they all got posted as ASP to Chandrashekar Singh who had to obey Antonia's orders as 60 Member govt. was supported by the Congress. The sooner such scum of this planet die,the nation would be better off. I had decided not to post anything here. Dear Prof Subramaniam Swamy , in my writ such details have been posted which you cannot even imagine even in the wildest of Dreams. Thanks for being decent and courteous to a woman who accidently found this place. GOOD LUCK TO YOUR PIL. |
| janeausten |
TOTALLY CORRUPT MANMOHAN SINGH (Currently 1 replies)
Posted At 11:33:12 05/18/2005 Who says Manmohan Singh's HONEST.? HE IS SO CORRUPT that as a finance MINISTER he siphoned billions of Rupees to Antonia. Now he ripping off the nation apart by bribing Antonia. He is so vindictive and a SNAKE in the grass the way he's closed all Criminal Cases against Antonia Cronies. A very honest Income Tax officer JAYANTI AIYER was declared "INSANE" by her extremely corrupt boss. Many M.P's intevened but after handing over a check of one lac rupees and terminated her services. Some years later she committed suicide.At that time he was the finance minister. Are you aware of how rich are his grandchildren,children? HE SHOULD BE PUBLICLY HANGED. THIS SIKH FELLOW IS A SAME ON INDIA and what sort of an "economist he is". He's stopped deposits in banks above 50,000 Rs. HE HAS made it madatory to cut a percentage if someone withdraws Rs.10,000/-. He doesn't know what VAT is but has simply copied it from Europe. He is a man of a lower division clerk of the so called INDIAN ECONOMIC SERVICE. YES, he's decent, meek only before his GODDESS ANTIONIA. His existence is a grave threat to Indian Security but he's as cheap as Lallo[WHOM HE SUPPORTS FULLY AND IS TRYING TO CLOSE HIS CRIMINAL CASES. He has already closed the CBI case of Assasin of Antonia by planting at Antonia's behest a phony "IPS officer" of Haryana cadre some named Bhatia whom they all got posted as ASP to Chandrashekar Singh who had to obey Antonia's orders as 60 Member govt. was supported by the Congress. The sooner such scum of this planet die,the nation would be better off. I had decided not to post anything here. Dear Prof Subramaniam Swamy , in my writ such details have been posted which you cannot even imagine even in the wildest of Dreams. Thanks for being decent and courteous to a woman who accidently found this place. GOOD LUCK TO YOUR PIL. |